tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-905018808665942667.post455658717978694884..comments2023-12-16T04:55:20.778-06:00Comments on FACS Classroom Ideas: Expectations vs RealityDenisehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01963398099747010439noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-905018808665942667.post-74017263330321515772012-09-08T16:42:31.383-05:002012-09-08T16:42:31.383-05:00Thanks for the response! I had to laugh out loud w...Thanks for the response! I had to laugh out loud when you mentioned the bullying clip from "What Would You Do" - that is exactly the kind of thing that administrators coming back from one of those 'all the answers to universe' conferences would have teachers do. And expect significant and lasting results from. Not just results, not just temporary results, but significant, lasting results.<br />I also have to agree with your assessment of the ineffective consequences applied in these situations. The ones who are repeatedly in these situations know exactly what will happen - they'll get a nice long vacation at home and then teachers will legally have to make every effort to get them caught up in class, once again at the expense of the students who didn't get in trouble - so they get involved in the same situation over and over. Then when they get their first (second, third, etc) jobs and can't cut it they blame their employers for intolerance rather than realizing that that's not how things work when you're out on your own. I agree, there should be real consequences for real offenses.<br />And I know there will be the people who protest that they are just children and that their ability to foresee consequences is still developing along with their frontal lobes and... yeah, but fully developed frontal lobes or not you know it's not okay to wait around the corner and then jump the girl who dared to talk to your boyfriend in the lunchroom when she walks by.<br />And then of course that girl is going to fight back, and her friends are going to jump in, and the crowd will gather, and the hallway will resemble a scene from "Gladiator" (or a baseball game) once again....Denisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01963398099747010439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-905018808665942667.post-32380696820085584172012-09-07T20:50:14.121-05:002012-09-07T20:50:14.121-05:00Hmm, this is an interesting analogy. I agree that ...Hmm, this is an interesting analogy. I agree that we are fighting human nature and that posting and reiterating behavioral expectations within the school and berating teachers for mishandling or not handling the conflict will never eliminate physical altercations, which are inevitable. The insane part is the repeat offenders. Some humans, regardless of age, have tremendous difficulty with impulse control and learning from consequences. In the adult world, within a professional or legal context, individuals who repeatedly engage in fights not just booted from the game or suspended from school, but escorted away FOREVER. Because serious actions have serious consequences. In the realm of public school, ineffective consequences are repeatedly doled out while a handful of individuals hijack the security and productivity of others, who might only once or twice (throughout the course of their lives) become involved in a serious fight. That said,I appreciate sincerely the candid acknowledgment that these events are naturally going to occur, bystanders will be bystanders, and showing students a clip on bullying from ABC's 'What Would You Do' will not, however idealistic you want to be, eliminate these very human instincts. But let's eject those repeat offenders from the game. For good.Catherine McKennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339512942462378903noreply@blogger.com